One of the themes I hear repeatedly — on the convention floor, in the trade show, at meals, in committees — is regret for the absence of conservative voices at this year’s convention. There’s a split in the family, make no mistake. Those who have chosen to leave the Episcopal Church are missed.
“The church has lost a voice, a voice that was a part of who we are and who we were,” Assistant Bishop William Skilton of the Dominican Republic said at a committee hearing this week. “One of the fears I have is that it will be totally lost.”
The rancor is largely gone, as are divisive and hurtful actions like holding separate Eucharists, which happened at last General Convention. At a committee meeting Saturday morning to craft the wording of a resolution on same-sex blessings, the Very Rev. Sam Candler, dean of the cathedral in Atlanta, urged “appealing to voices from across the spectrum” and “inviting participation from around the Anglican
Communion.”
Friday morning, the head of our deputation, the Rev. Sharon Lewis of Holy Spirit, Osprey, spoke to the House of Deputies about the need to stay in relationship with others. Comparing the church to an airplane, Pastor Lewis said, “If one wing is removed, the plane will spiral down.” Later she reported positive feedback and support from people on all sides of the issue.
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At Friday night’s Integrity Eucharist, the preacher, Barbara Harris — the first woman bishop in the Episcopal Church — was at her usual no-holds-barred best. “If you don’t want GLBT folks as bishops, don’t ordain them as deacons,” she said. “Better yet, be honest and say, ‘We don’t want you, you don’t belong here,’ and don’t bestow on them the sacrament of baptism to start with. How can you initiate someone and treat them like they are half-assed baptized?”
Saturday night, I accompanied Canon Gigi Conner of St. Peter’s Cathedral to the dinner given by Episcopal Divinity School, her seminary, where Bishop Harris was also present. We chatted with her, remarking on her comments the night before. “I’m so old, I can say whatever I want,” said Bishop Harris, 79, “and I don’t get called into somebody’s office to explain myself.”
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The heavy-duty legislation is starting to move. Title IV, on clergy discipline, likely will come to the House of Deputies on Sunday (yes, we work Sundays too), and the House of Bishops has approved a pension plan for lay employees. The language of the resolution on gay bishops is now out and will come before the Deputies on Sunday or Monday.
But there are moments of loopiness. The last two days a stray pigeon has found its way into the huge deputies’ hall, and we watch with amusement as it swoops and dives around. “Look, it’s a dove, the Holy Spirit,” someone shouted the first time it made an appearance.
Saturday afternoon deputies got a 10-minute break to read candidate bios before electing members of a trial court of a bishop. The hall’s piped-in music was turned on during the break, and it wasn’t long before the entire house broke into an enthusiastic chorus of “You Are My Sunshine.” It’s the little things that keep us sane.
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When we all go to Disney World in Orlando, we approach by car through several miles of beautifully landscaped grounds. Not so here. Disneyland is literally just across the street from the convention center, ringed by motels. You walk there. En route to breakfast every morning we encounter brigades of moms and dads and kids and strollers on their way to the original Magic Kingdom. You can see the rides and structures from the sidewalk.
We’ve quickly learned that the restaurants here don’t speak “sweet tea,” but they’re big on pomegranate and peach tea.
I want to thank all of you who have responded to these postings. I appreciate your feedback! And thanks to all of you who are keeping your deputation in prayer. We are strengthened by your prayers as we struggle to discern what the Spirit is saying to God’s people. Thank you for this opportunity to serve. — Judy Stark
“The church has lost a voice, a voice that was a part of who we are and who we were… One of the fears I have is that it will be totally lost.” Oh I can assure you that voice is still alive and well in the church. Part of the problem may be that some conservatives that are left feel isolated now and also do not feel as if their voice is respected or really thoughtfully considered by “liberals.” Is there really a desire to have that voice remain or is that just empty talk I wander? I think many “conservatives” believe that the other side of the debate will not be really satisfied until every last conservative voice is silenced or driven away. I recently heard a priest who is a friend of mine in a large conservative congregation express the feeling that he just now views his church as an island “a mission church” apart from the rest of the body of the Episcopal Church. I cannot agree with Rev. Lewis more than when she says we all need to stay in relationship with each other. I pray we do not become isolated islands sniping at each other from behind our fortifications. I do become frustrated when we behave like the only issue is the one of human sexuality and that if we line up on the “wrong” side of that issue nothing else we have to say about any other issue is valuable or sanctified or holy or even useful. My spiritual director lines up 180 degrees away from me on this issue. At times it has been a challenge and I will not lie and say there have never been ruffled feathers but we continue to walk together in love and I firmly believe God placed us together for a reason. I learn so much from her that I would never have had the opportunity to learn had either one of us walked away from the other over this issue. We say the Episcopal Church welcomes and I pray that is true that we will continue to welcome, not just tolerate, our conservative brothers and sisters.
Barbara Harris — the first woman bishop in the Episcopal Church — was at her usual no-holds-barred best. “If you don’t want GLBT folks as bishops, don’t ordain them as deacons,” she said. “Better yet, be honest and say, ‘We don’t want you, you don’t belong here,’ and don’t bestow on them the sacrament of baptism to start with. How can you initiate someone and treat them like they are half-assed baptized?”
You know I am sorry I have to respond to that I really cannot just let that argument stand unchallenged I guess. I believe baptism is a sacrament that is wholly different from ordination. When I was baptized and when I was confirmed I was not saying to anyone that I was an example that they could safely follow in terms of God’s laws and commandments. I was just saying “I love Christ, and I love this Episcopal Church I want to be part of the family and I want you to help me grow spiritually.” When I look to a priest I want to trust that that priest is living a lifestyle that is in line with God’s commandments and laws or that at least that priest recognizes the sin in their lives and desires on a daily basis to amend that sin. The ordained have a special responsibility to not lead people astray in terms of what is sin and what is not sin. The argument that because we baptize and confirm all who desire to follow Christ means that we should ordain using the same standard is just quite simply flawed logic no matter where you stand on this issue. More disturbing is the assertion that all those who do not agree in ordaining GLBT people do not believe they belong in the church as lay people or that they do not belong as full members of the body of Christ. If you believe an un-celibate gay lifestyle is a sin does that mean that you automatically judge the sinner and exclude that person? Did Christ do that or did He walk with, commune with, live with and love sinners? Why is it so impossible for some to believe that a person can be conservative and be loving and nonjudgmental? I know many conservatives who are bigoted judgmental and narrow minded. I know many liberals who are these things also, but certainly I walk closely with conservatives who mirror for me the love of Christ and who are not stingy with their love for GLBT people either.
Where do we draw the line with God’s laws for those who wish to be ordained? I hope you can take us a bit deeper. Bishop Harris is correct and I could not agree with her more.
I doubt in modern day society that many in traditional marrage are living by the law. I really don’t think I need to get specific examples, we all know them very well, but tend to ignore.
I am sad to read this day and age that we still hear ‘you are not good enough for ordination..you are a sinner’. What is next? Conversion therapy?
Since being part of this diocese, I have had one foot out the door, I think the other is not far behind